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This clip is taken from the Joe Rogan Experience #1596 with Avi Loeb. https://open.spotify.com/episode/0y7Vfzeua0TyLSAq3CUktH?si=tL50RjRATGqoBkxY42MmFQ source

This clip is taken form the Joe Rogan Experience #1574 with Jacques Vallée & James Fox. https://open.spotify.com/episode/3cuW6TuyRnZxBNaQJeH2Ce?si=lTDbced8Reau4daQs2U6OQ source

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